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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42   #21
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Idk guys i have found a ton of sucess in my Fire Minion Master (the build can deal the most damage i have ever seen). The only problem is energy.
You can deal a TON more damage if you can constantly maintain 10 minions.

Believe me, Fire Storm does nothing against Shiro'ken.
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:42 AM // 04:42   #22
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You can't have that same combo and still maintain good energy. You would need perhaps a skill like Offering of Blood to replenish some energy instead. That removes an elite slot on your bar though.
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:43 AM // 04:43   #23
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im sure fire magic has some kind of energy managment..some kind of glyph?
Well i am using glyf of lesser energy (-15 energy cost to one cast) so my flesh goldem costs nuthing or minions cost 10 insted of 25
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:45 AM // 04:45   #24
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A quich change of gears, i'm about to get 15K Luxon armour, and i have 2 black dyes, does it look good on it or should i go silver to save some money?
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46   #25
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That glyph doesn't help that much because of its one-time use, basically.
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46   #26
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ele primary MM could work with some tweaking..will give me something to do
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:46 AM // 04:46   #27
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yeah but Fire MM's own with fire storm
Are you serious? I hope you're not trolling...

Anyway... A MM with 10 fiends up will outdamage any fire storm. Also, if you took your points out of fire and put them in Soul Reaping you'd get energy each time one of them died. That's more than enough energy to keep you going/animating.

I run a pretty old school build for MM in AB and it works very well.

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Offering of Blood {E}
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Blood of the Master
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Animate Fiend
Verata's Sacrafice
Verata's Aura

I don't use Flesh Golem because I like the energy from Offering of Blood. I use a 20/20 wand and 20/20 offhand with bloodstained boots and +energy armor. It works for me.

If you're looking for a Flesh Golem build there are quite a few out there and a peak at the Necromancer forums will help.

Good luck.

EDIT: If you're hell bent on maxing damage (at the expense of self-protection/energy managment) drop the blood attribute and put the points in curses. Then add something like Mark of Pain or Barbs. 6-8 minions hitting a target/mob w/ MoP or Barbs adds up to a lot of damage really fast.

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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47   #28
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ele primary MM could work with some tweaking..will give me something to do
Your energy will seriously go to hell fast >_>

Your energy storage better be unstoppable!
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:47 AM // 04:47   #29
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black armor is soooo last yr
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black armor is soooo last yr
Uguuu I just dyed my 15k Female Kurzick Monk black =_=

I'm going out of style as we speak!
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:49 AM // 04:49   #31
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black is old news..vibrant colors are in this summer
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:50 AM // 04:50   #32
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Are you serious? I hope you're not trolling...

Anyway... A MM with 10 fiends up will outdamage any fire storm. Also, if you took your points out of fire and put them in Soul Reaping you'd get energy each time one of them died. That's more than enough energy to keep you going/animating.

I run a pretty old school build for MM in AB and it works very well.

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Verata's Sacrafice
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I don't use Flesh Golem because I like the energy from Offering of Blood. I use a 20/20 wand and 20/20 offhand with bloodstained boots and +energy armor. It works for me.

If you're looking for a Flesh Golem build there are quite a few out there and a peak at the Necromancer forums will help.

Good luck.

EDIT: If you're hell bent on maxing damage (at the expense of self-protection/energy managment) drop the blood attribute and put the points in curses. Then add something like Mark of Pain or Barbs. 6-8 minions hitting a target/mob w/ MoP or Barbs adds up to a lot of damage really fast.
So you are using 3 X lv 3 runes? dam thats 225 loss of life? How do you overcome that?
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51   #33
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So you are using 3 X lv 3 runes? dam thats 225 loss of life? How do you overcome that?
Staying back, maybe?

I wouldn't recommend using three superior runes though.
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51   #34
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dont get hit..let the wammo take the beating

MM+wammo..2 i wont have in my groups ewww
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:51 AM // 04:51   #35
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EDIT: If you're hell bent on maxing damage (at the expense of self-protection/energy managment) drop the blood attribute and put the points in curses. Then add something like Mark of Pain or Barbs. 6-8 minions hitting a target/mob w/ MoP or Barbs adds up to a lot of damage really fast.
Mark of Pain causes AoE scatter. Barbs works, althought I'm not too thrilled about it (especially in Cantha, with the multiple-enemy battles)
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Staying back, maybe?

I wouldn't recommend using three superior runes though.
I'm using 2 right now and its Vary scarry (esp with 60% DP)
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:53 AM // 04:53   #37
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I'm using 2 right now and its Vary scarry (esp with 60% DP)
Then you should really learn how to stay back. MM's shouldn't be near monsters at all. 60% DP is too much.
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:57 AM // 04:57   #38
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Then you should really learn how to stay back. MM's shouldn't be near monsters at all. 60% DP is too much.
Yeah that doesnt hapen much, but sometimees in a pinch it it possible to go 60%
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Anyoone watching the Packer game? This is bad :/
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Old Aug 13, 2006, 04:59 AM // 04:59   #40
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Yeah that doesnt hapen much, but sometimees in a pinch it it possible to go 60%
Very rarely though. If that's the case, I would be doubting the team's ability to control the situation.
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